G&T: Fleming

Tithe Applotment Books & Family Fleming, CurraCity & Farrankeal Environs 1827.

Fleming detail for Tithe Applotment Records 1827 in the Farrankeal/Curracity/CurraRoss Environs show two Flemings recorded, A Jno (John) Fleming at Curra-Knockarse and a David Fleming at CurraRoss. The Creans (Nicholas and Cornelious) are recorded at Farrankeal then. Nicholas Crean (Aged at 58) is later recorded as Head of the Family at Farrankeal in the 1901 Census where David-David Fleming (Aged at 26) is recorded there as his cousin. By the 1911 Census, David-David Fleming is recorded as Head of the Family at Farrankeal. The Tithe Applotment Records for Curra-City and Farrankeal do not contain the Fleming name for this era.

Tithe Applotment Fleming Names at Killentierna 1827

Surname Forename Townland/Street Parish County Year
Fleming Gart Ballybeg Lower Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Fleming David Curro Ross Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Fleming Jno Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Fleming Thos Knockeenacalley East Killeentierna Kerry 1827

Tithe Applotment Names at Farrankeal Environs 1827

Surname Forename Townland/Street Parish County Year
Crean Nichs Farrankeal Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Crean Corns Farrankeal Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Fleming Jno Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Crean Nichs Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Crean Corns Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Folue Darby Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Kerrish Dan Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan Corns Curro Knockarse Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Fleming David Curro Ross Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Foulue Darby Curro Ross Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Foulue Pat Curro Ross Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Murphy Timy Curro Ross Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Flynn John Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan Darby Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan Timy Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan Thos F Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Leary Mich Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Ahern Darby Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Ahern Jno Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Murphy Timy Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Flynn Darby Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Duane Dens Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Kerrish Cors Curros City Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Coakley Darby Curros Mount Par* Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Kevin Pat Curros Mount Par* Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan And Curros Mount Par* Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Brosnahan Corns Curros Mount Par* Killeentierna Kerry 1827
Cullinane Timy Curros Mount Par* Killeentierna Kerry 1827

Tithe Applotment Fleming Names at Kilcummin 1827

Surname Forename Townland/Street Parish County
Fleming Patrick Ahanalelaha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming   Ahanalelaha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Ballynamanagh East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Garrett Demesne Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick Coolick West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Thomas Coolick West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patk Mountain Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Thos Mountain Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Coolbaun Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Danl Incheculllane West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Inchecarrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Inchecarrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Inchecarrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patk L Guilacledene Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patk P Guilacledene Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patk L Mountain Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patk P Mountain Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Danl Foil*e Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michl Kilbrean Beg Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Darby Kilbrean Beg Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Maulyarkane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Lyreatang Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Lyreatang Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michl Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Garrett Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick J Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick P Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David I Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Danl Knockanecone Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Toormore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Toormore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Elizabeth Aghnablaha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Ballynamoana East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Patk Coolicky West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Patk Coolicky West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Clounteens Demesne Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Willm Inchihorrigane West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michl Inchihorrigane West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Willm Inchihorrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Inchihorrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Peter Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Laurence Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Ellen Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Laurence Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Ellen Knockatagilmore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Thomas Mastergeeha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Maulyarkane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Maulyarkane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Garrett Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Garrett Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Rathanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Garrett Knockanicon Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michl Toormore Kilcummin Kerry

 Family Fleming, Killentierna

Mike 'Dave Mike' Fleming, Originally from Curra-City and now resides in Ballincollig Co Cork, has completed some fantastic research into our Fleming Ancestry and has produced fantastic charts and documents recording events dating back to the BUTTER RUN and the 1700’s. Mike has done some excellent research into the Fleming Ancestry.

Son of John Fleming who married Mary Nolan Kilcow was David Fleming. David married Catherine O'Connor (Farran Currans ) in Circa 1858/59. David/Catherine had 11 surviving Children. Mary was the eldest girl B1860 while Mike was the eldest surviving boy B1863. John was B1859 but he died as an infant. David jnr was born in 1874 and Patsy in 1871. Mike got the homestead and David jnr became head of the family at Farrankeal in 1905 when his cousin Nicolas Crean died. David Fleming snr purchased land and the old Mill at Tobermaing in 1893 from Redmond Roche and when Mike married Hanora Scott, David snr moved to Toberming Castleisland (Pre 1901) with most of the other sibling Fleming Family (Ellen, Julia, Patsy, Jim, Anne and Maurice). David snr died there at Tobermaing on 17/June/1906. He was recorded as aged 82. His wife Catherine died on 03/08/1899 age 67 recorded on the death cert. Their son David Jnr married (1) Hanora Leen/Lane (Tullagubbeen, Castleisland) in 1909. Hanora died in 1922 and David remarried (2) Julia Costello from Kilsarcon in 1923. They lived and reared the family at Farrankeal. Hanora rests at Kilbannivane Cemetery Castleisland with her family while David and Julia were buried in Kilcummin Old Cemetery Killarney in the Fleming Plot there.

Griffiths Valuation Records Family Fleming, Killentierna 1853 (Primary Valuations) 

''The primary valuation of Ireland or Griffith's Valuation were carried out between 1848 and 1864 to determine liability to pay the Poor rate (for the support of the poor and destitute within each Poor Law Union) - and provide detailed information on where people lived in mid-nineteenth century Ireland and the property they possessed'' (NLI Extract)

In the original Primary Griffiths Valuations Records 1853 the Fleming name is not recorded as residing or renting land at Curracity by then. A Martin Fleming is recorded as renting land at Farrankeal. In 1853 Edmond Fleming rents land at Curraross as does John Fleming who is captured as renting land there also along with Michael Fleming likewise. Flemings rent land also at Ballybeg and Killeentierna townland by 1853. Our cousin Timothy Clifford who lives in Kildare is our expert on aspects of our Curraross Fleming Ancestry and we will be adding more material about the Curraross Fleming Ancestry soon thanks to Tim.
In the years following 1853, changes to the land ownership details which were captured in the original Griffiths Records 1853 were also recorded in documents known as The REVISED GRIFFITHS RECORDS.
We attach links to those Revision Documents below. There is much more valuable ancestral information and clues in those documents and we are researching those presently.

At Curracity - County Cess (TAX or Rent) was paid by Gneeve (1 Gneeve - 10 Acres) and was generally £4 10s to £5 half yearly.
At Farrankeal - County Cess (TAX or Rent) was paid by Gneeve (1 Gneeve - 10 Acres) and was generally £6 to £6 12s 6d half yearly. (Considered exorbitant) ( FK estimated as 6 Gneeves)

Click Here: GV Primary Book Records regarding Flemings Killentierna in 1853.
Click Here: Additional GV MAPS Records regarding Farrankeal and ‘The Curras’ (City,Ross, Banefield, Knockarse, Knockaun) in 1853.
Click Here: GV Name Book Extract Regarding Place Names at Curra-Citty and the Farrankeal Environs.
Click Here: GV Name Book Extract regarding general locality. ( Currow, Castleisland, Scartaglin, Kilsarcan Etc. )
Click Here: GV Database Search Guide.

Griffiths Valuation Fleming Names at Killentierna 1853

Surname First Name DED/Barony Parish County
Fleming Edmond Curraross Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Garrett Ballybeg Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming John Ballybeg Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming John Curraross Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming John Killeentierna Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Martin Farrankeal Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Michael Ballybeg Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Michael Coolnacalliagh Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Michael Curraross Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Michael Killeentierna Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Patrick Inchincummer Killeentierna Kerry
Fleming Thomas Dromultan Killeentierna Kerry

Griffiths Valuation Fleming Names at Kilcummin 1853

Surname Forename Townland Parish County
Fleming Daniel Knockauncore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Clashnagarrane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Knockacullig North Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming David Mastergeeha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Denis Inchicorrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Denis Inchicorrigane West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Knockauncore Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming James Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Coollick Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Dromadeesirt Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming John Inchicorrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Mary Knockmanagh Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michael Ballynamaunagh Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michael Inchicorrigane East Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michael Knockataggle More Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Michael Mastergeeha Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick Inchicorrigane West Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Patrick Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming Thomas Coollick Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Maulyarkane Kilcummin Kerry
Fleming William Rahanane Kilcummin Kerry

Griffiths Valuation Revision Records & Family Fleming, Killentierna from 1859-1977

In Relation to the townlands Curraross, Currabanefield (Barnfield), Curracnocaun, Curracity and Farrankeal - for the years 1859-1977 -  we have recently sourced the Griffiths Valuation Revision Records from the Valuations Office in Dublin thanks to Stephen Nolan who works there. Those documents are very informative and make for exciting reading.
We attach a link to those documents below - in PDF format - for you to explore with relevant maps for that period - in addition to the original 1853 Griffiths Maps for cross-reference which can be sourced below also. In the Revision Records, look across to the 'Observation' column for the associated details and the year of reference for that particular line event.
NOTE: As time progressed from 1853, when a tenant/landlord changed and an old valuations record was changed/updated, a line was simply drawn through the old entry and the new record entry was written in above the old posting. Similar Ink colour and pen type & print is important to distinguish and help in linking related events. We will be adding to the narrative in this section as soon as we better decipher and understand those Revision documents. While the Flemings were not renting land at Curracity by 1853 - on initial inspection, one observation from the Revision Records is that Flemings moved to Curracity by 1859. John Fleming rents land there and also in Currabanefield and Curraross. John's son David who married Catherine O'Connor circa 1858 is recorded renting at Curracity soon afterwards. John's other children (Patrick, John, Michael) feature in renting land around Curraross in 1874. In addition to the Fleming name, all the great and local familiar family names associated with those townlands are visible there also. The revision documents allow us to  attach a timeframe to when our Fleming Ancestors moved 'west' from Curraross to inhabit land at Currabanefield, Curracity, Curracnocaun, Farrankeal and north to Tobermaing in Castleisland.

Click Here: 1853 GV original PRIMARY Griffiths Valuation Book Records regarding Flemings Killeentierna in 1853 including Maps.
Click Here: NEW Griffiths Revision MAPs Records relating to Flemings at Curraross, Currabanefield, Curracity, Curracnocaun, Farrankeal and Tobermaing in Castleisland.
Click Here; NEW Actual Griffiths REVISION Records 1859-1977 relating to Flemings at Curraross, Currabanefield, Curracity, Curracnocaun and Farrankeal.
Click Here: NEW Actual Griffiths REVISION Records 1859-1967 relating to Flemings at Tobermaing in Castleisland. Tobermaing was purchased in 1893.

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